To Be, or Not to be Trespassing

Here is a picture from KPTV with one of the darlings at their last "truth-seeking" venture...venturing onto the grass with the gravel in front of her.

I'd previously excerpted a pic of just this red-shoe trod trespasser from this grander picture that has the "scribbling" as Lynne Terry so playfully terms it, in colorful chalk colors.

Of course this is a cul-de-sac.

And in deference to the other homes the childish phrases are clustered around one side of the street.

And in front of one house.

A house that in picture after picture we do NOT see Desiree Young looking toward. 

She, instead is looking away from TMH's home.  Is she possibly embarrassed to really confront TMH?

Yet she says, in varied accounts...that she saw TMH's "hair" in the window.  Or was that TMH's body?

Anyhow....take a look at the pretty red shoes on this little girl's feet. 

Gravel between the lawn and the curb.  Don't think the city takes a detail of how many stones there are there to throw, private stones landscaped by a homeowner. 

What does that mean to these little girls?  Come on....starts with a "tre...."

Happy Thanksgiving, Terri Horman! From your favorite-est stalkers.

THE CHALK - STALKERS (edited 11/30...early am as I await the teens getting home from the Hunger Games)

A comparison of coverage of this newest stalking case:  (Parenthetical comments are mine as are the final comments. Feel free to add your own comments as anon is activated;  preferably with respect, as I don't want to have to come back everyday and delete name-calling, etc.)

First in line to run down to Roseburg:

KGW……"I just felt like I needed to make a statement to her, that Kyron is a priority and we are not going to go away," said Desiree Young, the mother of Kyron Horman.

"They're here carrying signs about our grandson who is missing and they want to blame my daughter for him being gone," Carol Moulton, Terri Horman's mother, told a dispatcher.

In addition to protesting outside the Horman home, Desiree Young posted fliers throughout Roseburg, including at many businesses Terri Horman is known to visit. (And how does she know the "businesses"?)

KATU

……..The mother of Kyron Horman tried to confront her son's stepmother again this weekend at her Roseburg home.

Desiree Young and a small group of her supporters protested outside Terri Horman's home on Saturday.

The group carried signs and wrote on the street in chalk, asking where Kyron is.

Terri is believed to be the last one to see Kyron before he disappeared three years ago, but she's never been named a suspect by police.

Terri's mother called 9-1-1 to complain about the protest and said the group was trespassing.

"They're here carrying signs about our grandson who is missing and they want to blame my daughter for him being gone," she told the 9-1-1 dispatcher. "So they show up every once in a while, usually down at the end of the street, but now they're sitting out on our front lawn."
(Which, in KPTV's photo, you will see steps onto the grass of the Moulton's lawn which confirm tresspassing).

No one has been arrested in Kyron's disappearance.

KOIN:…nothing (Anna given up, or did she Decide not to be a "team player" having found out what/who Kaine is playing with?)

CHANNEL 12, KPTV:

……..But this weekend, she decided it was time to confront Terri Horman, face to face, for answers.

"I guess I didn't think after 3.5 years she would have some sudden spark of a feeling for Kyron and walk outside and say, ‘Ok, I did it. I confess,'" said Young. "But I was just hoping that maybe it will make her not sleep at night or think of Kyron more."  ("feeling for kyron"= possible false confession…how could she possibly know TMH's thoughts?)

The group of about 10 people stood perfectly positioned in front of Terri Horman's Roseburg home waving signs and chalking the pavements. Terri Horman reportedly never came to the window, but her mother called 911 to complain about the protest.  (Hmm, DY saw her "hair" and then saw "her"?)

"They're here carrying signs about our grandson who is missing, and they want to blame my daughter for him being gone," said Terri Horman's mother to a 911 dispatcher.

"The message that I received clearly on Saturday is that they are making Terri a priority and not their grandson," said Desiree Young. "I thought these were people who claimed to have loved Kyron, but they certainly didn't show it. They haven't shown it since Kyron went missing." (same rational as above).

Roseburg police showed up to talk with the group, but no citations were issued.

"Not having the answers, it's turmoil," said Young. "I can't solve the case. I can't get law enforcement to solve the case. I can't get law enforcement to arrest her, but I can stand out in front of her house and remind her of the reason we're here, and we're going to be here every day." (And there is the crux….Desiree gullibly extrapolates "suggestions" by LE, but can't get them to do anything about their/her suspicions…why?  Gradually, DY is creating her OWN version based on suggestion?)

Quotes by DY for KATU:

"I can stand her outside of her house and remind her of the reason we're here and we're going to be here everyday." (Not what she said to Lynne).

"It's turmoil. And it causes anguish and it's part of a roller-coaster that we live every day and she doesn't understand that." (No roller-coaster for TMH? No lines of worry and fear?)

Regarding Carol M. 911 call:

"…I thought that these were people that claimed to have loved Kyron…but they certainly didn't show it…and haven't shown it since Kyron went missing.."um…they haven't helped us in any way, shape or form look for him." (You expect them to, Desiree? Really?....and how do you know anything about what they do or don't do?)

OREGONIAN

.......Young said she'll carry out more actions in the future but said they will always be a surprise. (See above. Not much of a "surprise if she's going to be there "every day") 

IN the meantime, she's working to set up a Child Abduction Response Team in Medford.

"If we get everyone on board with the protocols and procedures, we won't have these children that aren't found." (REALLY???….well, if MCSO's incompetent Search and Rescue and then blame the victim is the only protocol DY knows of and she stays with the group to change that….maybe SOME children will be found…but NEVER a lost case? Lynne, did it occur to you to ask Desiree what she meant by that statement?)

Desiree Young – and Kyron's dad Kaine Horman – suspect that Terri Horman knows what happened to Kyron. To keep up the pressure, Young drove with with her sisters and friends from Medford, where she lives, to stage a protest in Roseburg on Saturday.   (Why is "to keep up the pressure" here, Lynn?  Do you condone "keeping up the pressure" in this way?)

"I'm tired of waiting," Young said. "She's refused to give us answers. It's torture." (Probably will NEVER speak to you again, Desiree.  Why should she?)

Young said the group went to the place where Terri Horman now works, tacking up fliers and speaking to people about Kyron and Terri Horman. Despite all the publicity surrounding the case in the metro area and even nationwide, many people in Roseburg are not aware that Terri Horman is even living there, Young said. 

(How many? Is she going door to door with a survey sheet? Is she bothering to chat with every one of the locals, here?) 

The group also visited the home where Horman lives with her parents, Carol and Larry Moulton, at the end of a cul-de-sac. 

("ALSO"…..as if it was an afterthought. Should read...."then she and her FB haters that she sent the message to….i.e. "no talkie, no Kiara"……did what they'd come to do. Stalk and call up the media to let the entire state know that DY still HATES tmh for breaking up her marriage to a known philanderer and wants to "break" her as she does Kaine).

The women chalked up the street, scribbling Kyron's name, and held up fliers with his picture on them.  (No progressed ones…with national tv watching?)

"I wanted to bring pressure on her and remind her why we are here, " Young said. "I wanted to remind her that Kyron's not going away and I'm not either."  (You would, DY, if there were no GoFundME and you had no Ego bolstered by people who hate those who have other opinions than them?)

Young said Horman and her mother looked out the picture window (well, she said on KPTV that she saw "tmh's hair") and that Larry Moulton came out in the yard and snapped pictures. Carol Moulton called police, saying the group was on their property.

Young denies that was the case. (Yet compare this picture, Lynne, to the one on KPTV. Clearly the stalker in the red boots was on the lawn).

"I'm really disappointed in Larry and Carol Moulton," Young said. "They are not the grandparents that I thought they were."

VW says,

Lynne, why do you continue to write these one-sided stories glorifying this vindictive woman who is in league with these haters? Are you ready for and encouraging DY to take the next step?  Desperately-seeking Desiree is not going to stop.  Will they yell obscenities to Kiara when she comes to visit?
TMH is not a  RSO….which this fiasco looks like. There is no evidence to convict her.  The MFH is no longer even mentioned…LE does NOT want to call attention to Bobby O'donnell…who was caught threatening another deputy who had eyes for his wife. (Extra! Extra!…..now that's a story worth investigating given the possible lens he was looking through when he interviewed Rudy).

In the last story involving Desiree YOUNG ... this woman told Dr. Phil that she would take steps to work with Kaine to find Kyron. 

She didn't make it very far up I5, did she?

And her EX is not showing up for court, and is asking the judge for no cameras.

Any connection with TMH finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel after walking the straight path for three years .... and her ex-husband's estranged wife not letting go of a vendetta? 

Respondent Requests Court to DENY the STATE the motion to Intervene

Jacob Houze has the Last Word with the DA's office.

The Motion to Intervene is "NOT WELL-GROUNDED in Law or Fact"

This Reply is one of the most interesting documents of this case that many of us have been following for 3-odd years. I'm reading each page with the lens of a parent who has just given an eager child his/her first venture into the real world of law. 

Houze has shown so much class in the duration of this case.  So has Bunch. They have repeatedly soldier'd on in the face of Judge M's year of "double-dipping" and Judge K's year of learning the curve.

I'll never forget one of the very few comments that Houze has made to the press. In the wake of DY's withdrawal of the Suit, for the "sake of the investigation" and Rosenthall's unethical leak of Dede's venture to the Grand Jury, Houze commented to KGW....

"I hope that the dismissal of this unwarrented suit obtains as much scrutiny as the inception of it"

Well, that might not be an exact quote. But it's close and i'll check it later.

With that "parental" insight into this case, apparently Houze, knowing that the end is in sight, is giving his child a chance to make history here:

Page 1

Page 2

Page 3

November 9th 2013

Affidavit to Support Motion to Intervene 
by Donald N. Rees

Entered into Register October 31st

Sounds like they are more interested in Kaine's protection than any other.  Why not Desiree?
Rudy? What does Kaine know about "mental impressions" of the investigators? And why would Kaine's knowlege of their "opinions" be of concern? (#9, second page)

Did Kaine already, in his depo to TMH's team, make some
off-the-cuff remarks even though Houze/Bunch were holding to the dictates of deposition according to what Kantor had deemed warrented.

Donald N. Rees....Motion to (kinda) Intervene
October 31st, 2013

So, what is the point in this Motion?  Is it a Half-motion?

Of note in the last page.  "The State does NOT WAIVE its privilege of confidentiality with

regard to the ongoing investigation..........

In other words, to FULLY intervene would mean that the state would be able to be depoed?

Can't have it both ways, Underthehill.

Next:   Affidavit to support this half-measure.

Motion to Intervene: Underhill (Filed October 28)

M

Perpetuation Deposition of Rudy Sanchez

Regarding Rudy (draft 11/09/13)

Latest on the Depo.  Latest filed anyway.  
This is all that was in the file post the filing of the objection.
My guess:  Kantor called them prior to the deposition. Asked if Bunch had made a good faith effore to resolve the situation. Then denied the perpetuity depo.  In chambers.  

Kyle filed the original objection by Houze at the Scrib website. His did not have the filing stamp, IIRC.  So he got it from whom?

Portland Courthouse visit.  11/08   (Docket)

Note:  Add to the docket for hearings

December 19-20  .....  Visitation/Temporary

January 3,4 .....  Dissolution for Finances, etc.

June.....2013   ....... Final Custody 

Newest Docket as of 11/08/12

The Divorce Heats Up.
Newest Docket
11/08/13

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MCSO and new OVERTIME  (November 1, 2013)

Ridiculous justifications at the latest MC Commissioner's office:  (I am seeing red!)

More complete New Overtime news …….from Dirk Vanderhart of….

http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/ar...(I submitted this article and my response to it to Oregonlive this morning).

Part 1. A single employee of the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office accumulated more than 430 hours of overtime from July 1 to October 1. For that work, she netted $25,589 above her regular salary.
The department's top ten workers cleared more than 3,000 overtime hours in the same time—$194,560 worth of work.
In total, the sheriff's office logged 31,181 overtime hours—nearly 780 work weeks in just three months. Cost: $2.3 million.

Part 2. If those numbers shock or concern you, you're not alone. Worries over the impressive salary bumps drawn by jail workers and deputies are old news.
The real surprise—in a presentation to the Multnomah County Board of Commissioners this morning— was a fresh contention: Yes, costs have soared, Chief Deputy Drew Brosh and County Auditor Steve March said, but it's not because of overtime.

In fact, they said, overtime may actually be saving us money.

"The prices are essentially equivalent," between overtime and straight pay, March told commissioners. "To be honest, the overtime hour is a little cheaper."

That's because, while the short-staffed sheriff's office frequently has to bring in deputies and corrections officers for extra shifts, it's spending less on health
care and training than it would with more employees.

Part 2
Overtime may be a bugaboo—the reason for this morning's presentation is that the commission now requires Sheriff Dan Staton to personally request overtime money on a quarterly basis—but there are more-nuanced issues in the sheriff's office, March said.

"Focusing on overtime won't provide you with adequate information," he said. "It's the total cost of operation that needs to be considered."

The essential problem: less bodies are on hand to handle rising workloads, Brosh said.

A steady rise in the amount of jail inmates who need to be closely monitored against suicide has required more staffers. At the same time, an increasing number of employees are coming up for retirement, and the department is scrambling to fill positions.

And a troubling problem with jail overcrowding has emerged. Brosh conceded the sheriff's office will likely use new state money to open now-dormant portion of the Inverness Jail in coming months.

Even so, Brosh noted "overtime is trending down."
No one said it explicitly, but the gist of this morning's presentation amounted to: Forget quibbling about overtime cash, we need more money in general.

"That may be the analysis one the sheriff's office is able to tell us where all the hours are going," March said this afternoon.

All of which is not to suggest the sheriff's OT situation is without concerns.

Part 3...See Part 1….(anyone see a ww article subject here? Diane Olson?)

That top overtime worker for the last three months? While he refused to give the Mercury her name or elaborate, Brosh told commissioners red flags have emerged around her hours.
"We're reviewing the top one."
March also wouldn't comment on the specifics. "The audit team noticed something that seemed to be out of the norm," he said. "It was referred to the sheriff’s office for investigation."

And Brosh admitted the sheriff's office has issues with employees taking excessive leave—a scenario which creates more work for other employees.

The county's top elected officials, meanwhile, are clearly still concerned about overtime use. Smith drilled Staton and Brosh over the overtime pay, demanding to see names of the top ten people drawing the salary bumps. And Commissioner Judy Shiprack said the numbers raise issues of fairness and integrity.

"There's also a safety issue here," Shiprack said. "This is a lot of working hours. If this were my airline pilot, I'd be really nervous. It's their safety and it's the safety of the inmates that they're supervising."

Despite all this, the board of commissioners voted unanimously to give Staton $784,000 for next quarter's overtime. March expects to release a detailed audit of the sheriff's office before the end of the year.

Portland Mercury

http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/ar...

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What a bunch of double-speak by the department's very own:

"The prices are essentially equivalent," between overtime and straight pay, March told commissioners. "To be honest, the overtime hour is a little cheaper."

Where's the Oregonian's Political Fact Finder on this?

Straight-hour for OT? No bennies, too. And if they hired someone new at an entry level job that did NOT start amassing their very own overtime it is just cheaper?

$25,589. For 3 months work. That means a new employee with a GED, or HS diploma (that's all they need, btw) makes $102,000.00 (six figures) in a year.
But WAIT!
That makes our two-vacation homes OT abuser amassing an ADDITIONAL 6 figure salary to add to her other income the three years before retirement.

So....200,000 X 3 = 600,000. Bet she's doing the math as she garners overtime to go retake a rifle test she FLUNKED.

This HS diploma-needed job is going to get her about 150,000 a YEAR in PERS benefits PER YEAR.... FOR LIFE!

Professional MA-degreed teachers who worked OT for dozens of years WITHOUT pay would be getting 30% of her retirement.

So....MCSO and Commissioners....tell us again, as we stare at our property tax bills in Multnomah, that you are not gaming the system while sitting one-on-one in front of a locked cell.

And I'm not even touching the surface here. Wasn't that ANOTHER million in overtime that these jokers spent searching the WOODS for Kyron when told that the boy would NOT wander?

I'll go find the address, but the Mult. Commissioners need to do something NOW to stop this!
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